This week’s discussion: Toddlers and Tiaras, Season 7, Eps. 1-5. Watch it on Hulu.
Next week’s discussion: Judge Faith, Season 2, Eps. 1-4, 7-10. Watch it on Amazon Prime Video. Watch it on YouTube.
This week we tackled the infamous TLC show Toddlers & Tiaras. JS begins with an apology to our listeners and declares it the worst show he’s ever seen, whereas Mike offers a somewhat qualified defense of the show (though definitely not the people – who are the worst).
After our recriminations and the usual recap of concept and structure, we delve into the show’s point-of-view and how it is reflected in its editing choices. We also discuss the topics of beauty and gender standards, how these pageants sexualize minors, ritualistic nature of beauty pageant culture, the links between beauty pageantry and social conservatism, and the role of social class and economics. Of course, we continually return to how troubling this is as well as finishing up with an exploration of whether this show has any redeeming social value or is merely wallowing in salaciousness.
Show Notes and Links
1:31 / Introducing this week’s show (with bonus apology from JS)
2:21 / JS thinks this is the worst show he’s ever seen
2:52 / Mike explains why he didn’t think this was the worst (although the people are); mentions Monica the Medium and Keys to the VIP
4:41 / The concept of the show
7:08 / This isn’t the first ‘rodeo’ for many of these families
8:08 / Talking about the exception: single dad at first pageant
9:28 / Covering the awards ceremony (and the ridiculous award names)
10:40 / These parents don’t accept second place
12:00 / Delving into the pageant judges and directors
14:15 / Segueing into the show’s point-of-view; Mike mentions Bridezillas
14:52 / The editing choices were revealing
16:41 / Money is a frequent topic
17:13 / The motif of bribing kids with sugar and caffeine
19:33 / Parsing the difference between disapproving of the parents and the pageant
20:36 / Mike was rubbed the wrong way by many of the judges’ comments
22:27 / Mike’s theory of why the pageant footage is edited differently
24:02 / Talking about the intended audience; see our Finding Bigfoot episode for our take on the decline of educational cable channels
25:09 / Show possibly geared towards mothers; contrasting the appeal of the show to Snooki and JWoww: Moms with Attitude
26:53 / How this show could potentially appeal to ‘pageant moms’
27:19 / Transitioning to a discussion on what this show says about beauty and gender standards
28:08 / The artificiality of the beauty standard was revealing
29:04 / The problematic message of adult beauty pageants is even more amplified when it involves children who cannot meaningfully consent
31:24 / The two objections to child beauty pageants: consent and sexualization
34:12 / The ritualistic aspects of child beauty pageantry; Mike makes a possibly melodramatic comparison to ‘female circumcision’
36:17 / JS poses a question to Mike
37:38 / Coming back to traditionalist gender roles and the Southern regional aspect (Correction: one was also in California, but the larger point stands)
39:07 / The relationship between social conservatism and beauty pageant culture
41:45 / Talking about our (limited) experience with (adult) beauty pageants
43:24 / Discussing the role of social class and economics
44:40 / Mike noticed a positive correlation between wealth and winning
45:15 / JS begrudgingly gives the show his one kudos
46:06 / Returning to the vast amounts of money spent on the dresses
46:47 / Seems to be no real monetary return for these pageants
49:03 / Speculating (somewhat baselessly) into the economics of holding a beauty pageant
51:08 / We’d call it a con, but these parents seem to have no illusions of wealth
52:02 / Exploring the parents’ motivations: validation, living vicariously, and ‘winning’ (not ‘confidence’)
54:57 / Participation trophies are ‘ruining society’
55:45 / Does this show have social value or is it wallowing in titillation?
57:15 / JS thought the social value was held back by the fact that there are bigger problems in the world
59:40 / Mike wonders whether this dichotomy is so strict (Is there inherent tension between sensationalism and exposé?)
1:01:17 / Mike imagines the response to this show would depend on the viewer, which has disturbing implications
1:01:55 / Mike found the show both more interesting and more depressing than he expected, even if it wasn’t Edward R. Murrow; thought the show would be light-hearted camp
1:02:53 / Comparing this show to America’s Next Most Smartest Model and America’s Next Top Model; JS found how it puts children into an adult setting objectionable
1:05:12 / Announcing the next episode (You can refresh yourself on our Divorce Court episode here)
1:08:50 / The usual: email us, rate/review, and subscribe
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